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	<title>Comments on: Using Mindfulness-Based Psychotherapy And Mindfulness Meditation to Overcome Trauma</title>
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		<title>By: Margaret Allan LCSW PsyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Allan LCSW PsyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki
As a practitioner and psychotherapist I would want you to really be able to feel understood by you therapist..I lean heavily on &quot;the incomparable power of understanding&quot; as George Atwood says.  This might mean looking further and seeing someone more frequently to feel truly held.  You may get a lot from Robert Stolorows book Trauma and Human Exxistence, which captures the profoundly isolating aspect of trauma in catapulting us out of the human fold in the shattering of comforting norms, he calls absolutes,,caught in ideas of permanence.  I suppose my message is seek another to find a relational home fro this terrible pain.
Margaret

P.s. international Assoc of Self Psychol. May b another place to look</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki<br />
As a practitioner and psychotherapist I would want you to really be able to feel understood by you therapist..I lean heavily on &#8220;the incomparable power of understanding&#8221; as George Atwood says.  This might mean looking further and seeing someone more frequently to feel truly held.  You may get a lot from Robert Stolorows book Trauma and Human Exxistence, which captures the profoundly isolating aspect of trauma in catapulting us out of the human fold in the shattering of comforting norms, he calls absolutes,,caught in ideas of permanence.  I suppose my message is seek another to find a relational home fro this terrible pain.<br />
Margaret</p>
<p>P.s. international Assoc of Self Psychol. May b another place to look</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Elias</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki, I would add to Beth&#039;s guidance that you take the attitude that your loved one is watching you with love and encouragement(on a &quot;what if&quot; basis if necessary) -- remember again and again that your loved one wants you to heal and flourish. 

Such a loss is so deeply moving that we forget that we have subtle beliefs and attitudes about loss that create unnecessary torment and hopelessness. 

The natural acute pain of the loss which we of course do not want to deny or dishonor can blind us to the infiltration of unnecessary thoughts of guilt, unworthiness, and absolute absence. 

It is tremendously strengthening to think of them again and again with love, and to see them at their best cheering us on.
Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki, I would add to Beth&#8217;s guidance that you take the attitude that your loved one is watching you with love and encouragement(on a &#8220;what if&#8221; basis if necessary) &#8212; remember again and again that your loved one wants you to heal and flourish. </p>
<p>Such a loss is so deeply moving that we forget that we have subtle beliefs and attitudes about loss that create unnecessary torment and hopelessness. </p>
<p>The natural acute pain of the loss which we of course do not want to deny or dishonor can blind us to the infiltration of unnecessary thoughts of guilt, unworthiness, and absolute absence. </p>
<p>It is tremendously strengthening to think of them again and again with love, and to see them at their best cheering us on.<br />
Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Patterson</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Vicki - I am so sorry to hear about your loss and the pain of your grief.  As someone who has also lost a loved one to suicide, I know what a difficult , confusing and painful loss this is.  I specialize in traumatic grief in my psychotherapy practice, and would be happy to talk to you further to give you some guidance on your journey.  I can be reached at 303-817-8571 or via bethpatt@mac.com.

The best first step is taking good care of your physical health - I know it&#039;s easy to succumb to the urge to stay in bed and eat comfort food. It&#039;s important to get good rest and nutrition and get some exercise - walking in the beautiful autumn weather can be very healing.

Find some partners on your path - people who can listen to your pain, a grief support group, a caring grief counselor, etc.  I would be happy to connect you to some resources in that regard.

I know this can feel overwhelming and, as you say, more than you think you can manage.  These initial steps will help quite a bit.  Journaling about your feelings can help too.  It is very important to get all those swirling thoughts, feelings and emotions out.  

I hope to hear from you.  Please take good care of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Vicki &#8211; I am so sorry to hear about your loss and the pain of your grief.  As someone who has also lost a loved one to suicide, I know what a difficult , confusing and painful loss this is.  I specialize in traumatic grief in my psychotherapy practice, and would be happy to talk to you further to give you some guidance on your journey.  I can be reached at 303-817-8571 or via <a href="mailto:bethpatt@mac.com">bethpatt@mac.com</a>.</p>
<p>The best first step is taking good care of your physical health &#8211; I know it&#8217;s easy to succumb to the urge to stay in bed and eat comfort food. It&#8217;s important to get good rest and nutrition and get some exercise &#8211; walking in the beautiful autumn weather can be very healing.</p>
<p>Find some partners on your path &#8211; people who can listen to your pain, a grief support group, a caring grief counselor, etc.  I would be happy to connect you to some resources in that regard.</p>
<p>I know this can feel overwhelming and, as you say, more than you think you can manage.  These initial steps will help quite a bit.  Journaling about your feelings can help too.  It is very important to get all those swirling thoughts, feelings and emotions out.  </p>
<p>I hope to hear from you.  Please take good care of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just lost my husband of 29 years four months ago to suicide. It has been more than I can bear, and the pain, suffering and grief I feel makes me understand more why after prolonged depression he would do anything to stop this pain.I have only felt it since his loss and it is more than I can manage. I would do anything to work thru the guilt, loss, trauma of seeing his death, etc.....

I am seeing a phychitrst that helps some, but in the end, this road is too long and grueling. Any advice or guidance you can offer regarding this mindful meditation would be greatly appreciated, I am located right outside of Washington, dc and would appreciate any assistance....

Vicki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just lost my husband of 29 years four months ago to suicide. It has been more than I can bear, and the pain, suffering and grief I feel makes me understand more why after prolonged depression he would do anything to stop this pain.I have only felt it since his loss and it is more than I can manage. I would do anything to work thru the guilt, loss, trauma of seeing his death, etc&#8230;..</p>
<p>I am seeing a phychitrst that helps some, but in the end, this road is too long and grueling. Any advice or guidance you can offer regarding this mindful meditation would be greatly appreciated, I am located right outside of Washington, dc and would appreciate any assistance&#8230;.</p>
<p>Vicki</p>
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